Radiometric Dating

Radiometric Dating | Age dating varies and many lose their faith due to error. | #podcast #homeschool @homeschoolpodcastHas Radiometric Dating Poisoned Your Faith? Episode 11

Introduction ~ Radiometric dating can destroy your trust in the Bible.

Some Observations about Radiometric Dating

Many believe the earth is 4.5 billion years old. Modern geology uses radiometric dating to confirm this.
Some facts about radiometric dating:
1. It relies on a set of unprovable assumptions in order to work.
2. It wasn’t developed until the 20th Century. But the idea of an ancient Earth was worked out philosophically early in the 19th Century, with no scientific evidence for an ancient Earth, but only philosophical interpretation.
3. In many cases, radiometrically dated rock has yielded both younger and older dates than the one finally accepted. The geological timetable, developed in the 1800s, is the final determiner of age.
4. Fossils and dinosaur bones are not directly dated using radiometric dating. Ideas for dating fossils were worked out philosophically about 100 years before radiometric dating was developed.
5. Carbon-14 is not used to date archaeological discoveries without first comparing them with pottery styles and any available written documents.
6. Using index fossils to date fossil discoveries is falling into disuse, as the same fossils are being increasingly discovered below and above their accepted time markers

Radiometric Dating fails as a time predictor because the processes cannot be observed or recorded in the past.

Our Response

As believers, we are to live by the words of Scripture, which come from God’s mouth (Matt. 4:4). Jesus quoted and trusted the Old Testament. Also, ”…the righteous will live by faith.” (Hab. 2:4.) And, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” (Rom. 4:3).

Many scientists say things that contradict what Scripture says, especially about Earth’s age. If we are to trust God’s words, what does this mean for us?

An example:
Genesis 5 is a list of the descendants of Adam, from Seth, to the Flood. This totals about 1656 years. If Adam was created on day six of Creation Week, this means that earth must be younger than 4.5 billion years. If this Biblical record is incorrect, then what the Bible says about salvation and forgiveness of sins is suspect.

Radioactivity and Radiometric Dating Explanation

Radioactivity is observable and measurable in the present.
Radiometric Dating seeks to apply this science to the distant past, to make it work like a clock.

Some atoms are unstable. They lose energy (decay, are radioactive). For example, Carbon-12 is a normal, stable element, with six protons and neutrons. Carbon-14, though, has six protons, and eight neutrons. It is unstable and seeks to lose particles, or decay (is radioactive). Radioactive atoms release energy which can be measured in decays per second (Becquerels). By taking these present rates of decay and projecting them into the past (assuming a constant decay rate), an age for the earth can be statistically calculated. This is not science, but a combination of science, history, philosophy, and consensus.

Uranium is an example of an unstable element. Theoretically, if it loses enough atomic particles, it becomes lead. It is assumed that this will happen, even though nobody has seen the entire process. It can’t be verified.

But if the Genesis Flood took place, then these assumptions about radiometric dating would be thrown off. All geological processes would have changed by this sudden release of heat and energy.

To date anything, we must know its history. Christian orthodoxy proclaims that the Bible is God’s revelation to man, is historical, and reveals to us the outline of the Earth’s history. Contrast that to the Enlightenment, which helped set the course for modern geology, and says that there is no Biblical revelation and that the Bible isn’t historical.

Summary

1. Radiometric dating isn’t science, but an application of the philosophy of uniformitarianism.
2. Uniformitarianism denies the historical Genesis Flood.
3. Uniformitarianism is a belief about the past.
4. Uniformitarianism is scientifically limited to the present.
5. Uniformitarianism consists of extrapolation and assumptions.
6. Radioactivity isn’t the same thing as radiometric dating.

As believers, we must look at things differently. 2 Corinthians 10:3-5. “…We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God….”

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Story In The Rocks

The Story in the Rocks Episode 10

Story in the Rocks | Patrick Nurre shares the story in the rocks in today’s’ episode. Below find the show notes, and also a set you can also download a set. | #podcast #creationpodcast

Story in the Rocks | Patrick Nurre shares the story in the rocks in today's' episode. Below find the show notes, and also a set you can also download a set. | #podcast #creationpodcast

Here is the handout in an easy to download format. Below are the show notes as well. The Story in the Rocks

Introduction: Secular scientists tell us that the rocks are like the pages of a history book that can only be read by those trained in modern geology. The rocks do tell a story, but you must start from a correct historical perspective of the history of Earth.

Until the mid to late 1700’s those who studied nature were called naturalists. Their study sprang from the Creation story and the Genesis Flood as told in scripture. Newton and Galileo used this approach.  Nicolas Steno, one of the first to study geology, followed this. His rules are still taught today.

What about radiometric dating being used to date rocks and bones? Consider this:

  1. Radioactivity was discovered in 1897. The first radiometric age of the earth was calculated in 1917. But modern geology had already established early ages for the earth over 100 years before radiometric dating. So those who established these early ages in the 1800s were guessing.
  2. Since radiometric dating was first developed, many problems have surfaced with it. Numerous articles have been written about these problems.

How old are the rocks, fossils, and the earth? What is the story in the rocks?

These questions can’t be resolved by science, (observation, testing, and repetition of tests). And even before we answer these, we need a starting point.

There are two starting points, and both are philosophies. One is the Bible. The other came from the Enlightenment, a movement in the 18th and 19th centuries. It was a breakaway from the traditions of the church, the Bible, and miracles. Everything was to be studied apart from these. The historicity of the Scriptures was rejected, even though there was no sound reason for doing this.

The starting point for this second view was an idea called, uniformitarianism. It rejected a young Earth and a global flood, and said, instead, that the geology we observe now shaped the earth over immensely long periods of time. James Hutton considered the Father of Modern Geology, promoted this. This is the only view that is accepted in our modern educational institutions.

So how old are the rocks and fossils?

This must be answered from a historical framework. Uniformitarianism is limited in its ability to address this historically since the history of observation in uniformitarianism is limited to the past two hundred years. But the Bible records a global geological event that took place 4500 years ago.

Let’s apply the Biblical concept to the rocks.

Volcanic rocks: These are the only rocks we see forming. They spew out dangerous gases and cause destruction. They would not have been a part of the original, very good creation. Volcanoes would fit in Gen. 7:11 when the fountains of the great deep burst open.

Granitic rocks: Nobody has seen them form, but the consensus is that they are the foundation rocks of Earth. Biblical history would have them created within the first few days of the creation week.

Metamorphic rocks (changed rocks): Nobody has seen these form. Biblical history would fit them in Gen. 7:11. Sediments produced at this time as well as foundation rocks would have been changed through heat and pressure as these rocks ground against each other, consequently rearranging the minerals into new patterns. Limestone could have changed into marble, sandstone into quartzite, granite into gneiss.

Fossils (found in sedimentary rocks): These are explained by a catastrophic flood. Muddy sediments would have quickly buried billions of creatures and plants, preserving examples of the pre-flood world. And we now know that it does not take millions of years to form a fossil, but the right chemical environment.

Conclusion: The rocks and fossils tell a story, from the creation of elements to the destruction of the earth in a year-long, global flood. It is clearly seen in the evidence.

 

 

 

Biblical Geology

Biblical Creation | Special Guest Patrick Nurre of Northwest Treasures - handout | #podcast #creationpodcast @creationBiblical Creation – Episode 8

Today our special guest, Patrick Nurre discusses Biblical Creation. Patrick is the owner of Northwest Traditions with his wife, Vicki and has a wealth of information to share with us!

Here is the handout in an easy to download format. Below are the show notes as well. What is Biblical Geology show notes

I. Geology – “The Study of the earth.”
a. Made of two parts
i. Earth’s physical chemistry – observation and testing (Earth Science), what can be observed, tested, and repeated
ii. Earth’s origins – how Earth came to be (Earth History), involves history, philosophy, and consensus
1. History – deals with one-time, unique events supported by documentation/eyewitnesses
2. Philosophy – deals with biased interpretations of evidence
3. Consensus – deals with opinions of a select group regardless of facts.
II. Secular geology combines these two (science and history) into one academic course, “Earth History.” Secular geology cannot answer questions of:
a. How and where did the earth originate?
b. How old is the earth?
c. Where did all the rocks come from?
d. Where did I come from?

III. Worldview
a. Not religion vs. science, but worldview vs. worldview
b. Secular view – uniformitarianism
i. Earth is billions of years old
ii. Earth developed and originated naturalistically
iii. Only chemicals/ elements exist
iv. God is irrelevant
c. Biblical view – supernaturalism
i. Earth is thousands of years old
ii. Earth originated by the word of God, from nothing
iii. Man is made in the image of God
iv. Nothing exists apart from God
IV. The Enlightenment (1700-1800’s)
a. Rejected the Flood
b. Rejected the Bible as history
c. Regarded the Genesis Creation story as a myth
d. Rejected miracles, the Resurrection
e. Questioned the deity of Christ
f. Rejected the idea of revelation: the Scriptures are not the inspired word of God

V. Scriptural Worldview
a. Scriptures are a record of history
b. Scriptures can be divided into five main periods
i. The Creation – God spoke it into existence in six days
ii. The Pre-flood world – the earth was corrupted because of sin

iii. The Flood – God destroyed the earth in a year-long Flood
iv. The Post-flood world – the period immediately following the Flood, to the present
v. The Future, including eternity – New Heavens and New Earth
vi. First four periods are about 6000 years, based on historical genealogies and chronologies

c. What happened during this time
i. Creation (six days) – Elements, energy, water, sea creatures, birds, dinosaurs, man created
ii. Pre-Flood world – 1.656 years of unbridled sin and corruption brought on by man’s rebellion
iii. The Flood – One year of geological upheaval that produced volcanoes and mountains
iv. The Post-Flood World – 4500 years of the effects of the Flood, including extinction, climate change, an ice event, and more volcanism
d. The Flood
i. Historical event that left geological evidence
ii. Global event that left global geological effects
iii. The most significant geological event in Earth history
e. Biblical geology is using the Scriptural, historical account to interpret the evidence

VI. Implications of Biblical Geology
a. All of Earth’s visible land formations are a result of the Flood
b. All of the fossils are a result of the Flood and the aftermath
c. Most of the extinction in the fossil record, including dinosaurs, is a result of the Flood
d. All the earth’s present-day mountains, earthquakes, volcanoes and natural disasters were the result of the global flood and its consequences
e. The Flood is responsible for the formation of an ice event that sculpted mountains all over the world
f. All of earth’s geological processes have been affected by the Flood, including radioactivity and radiometric dating
VII. Two frameworks to explain our world
a. The Biblical framework explains what we see in our world in light of our framework: the Scriptures, including the Flood
b. The secular framework uses uniformitarianism as their framework, which excludes any influence that is supernatural
VIII. We must become as familiar with our framework as secularists are with theirs.

What Happened To The Dinosaurs

What Happened To The Dinosaurs? | This podcast is for kids to learn about the dinosaurs. #podcast #creationscience #dinosaurs #homeschoolFor Kids! What Happened To The Dinosaurs? Episode 7

To understand a bit about what happened to the Dinosaurs, it is best to begin in Genesis. Understanding how man sinned shows us that the Garden of Eden a haven for Adam and Eve and all the animals became a world far from perfection.

Then along came Noah! He was a righteous man and he saved the animals at the time of The Flood. While some think the flood was only in specific areas of the world, this is not true! You can find more information about Flood Geology in the book Creation Geology a Study Guide to Fossils, Formations & The Flood. The Flood was worldwide, the podcast contains information about some of the ways we know this.

The Ark design was unique (Genesis 6:14-16) There was room for 2 of each animal, food and storage, Noah and his family. The ark design is one of the most stable of any boat. When God said He wanted Noah to take two of each kind, what does it mean? A “kind” is not a “species.” For example, a “dog kind,” includes dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc.

What Happened To The Dinosaurs?

Where are the dinosaurs? Dinosaurs were believed to be on the ark. Juvenile dinosaurs were onboard and the average size of the dinosaur was the size of a small chicken. So, for all those skeptics, yes – dinosaurs were on the ark!

When the rains stopped and the flood waters receded, 150 days later the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat. The mountains became visible in the tenth month.

Before the Flood, the earth was warmer. It is believed there was more carbon dioxide in the air that made the plants and animals grow bigger (and people lived longer). There are many plants and animals found in the fossil record that did not survive the flood.

What Happened to the Dinosaurs? 

After the flood, many plants and animals died and the dinosaurs and other large creatures could not live in the reduced atmosphere or without some of the plants that did not survive, so they became extinct. Many plants and animals were buried rapidly which caused fossils. Fossils are often found in groups. The rocks showed the catastrophic deposits with large scale erosion into the newly deepened oceans. There was also a post-flood Ice Age.

Geologic formations formed and the rapid burial showed that many fossils found were not commonly found together in nature. The Fossils were only preserved when they are rapidly buried.

Missing Link

Missing link | Missing link is still missing despite all that evolution claims. #podcast #homeschoolThe Missing Link with Dr. Sharp

The missing link is still missing. Building your worldview on the knowledge presented in Genesis. There are preconceived ideas about origins and you can look at it two ways. One is with an evolution bias, with the thought of being an Atheist, Deist, or Theist.
With a bias of a creation perspective, the thought is of a Creative designer. Both can point to scientific data to substantiate their points.

Roman 3:4 — “Let God be true and every man a liar.”

There are predictions for each model.
Creation focus:
1. Life only from life
2. Kinds wholistically controlled by genetics
3. The earth’s present topography caused by the Genesis Flood
4. The human race created in God’s image

Evolution
1. Life from non-life
2. Species traditional upward to new species
3. The earth’s topography caused by gradual processes
4. man consists of several races and is a derivative of animal ancestry

Searching for the Origin of Life – Stanley Miller conducting vacuum tube experiments that won him a Noble Prize in early 1950’s
Miller who after almost four decades is still in hard pursuit of life’s biggest secret agrees that the field needs a dramatic finding to constrain the rampant speculation.
Charles Darwin the author of the Origin of Species — however he said the missing links would be found and they are still missing.

Even Stephen Jay Gould says, “The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution.”
All Paleontologists know that the fossil record contains precious little in the way of intermediate forms; transitions between major groups are characteristically abrupt (Stephen Jay Gould.”
Even the evolutionists find that the fossil record is spotty and therefore Darwin’s hypothesis is still an “educated guess.”


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Creation Anatomy

Creation Anatomy | Teaching Creation Anatomy iis an amazing way to study God's handiwork. #podcast #homeschoolCreation Anatomy

Creation Anatomy is a study of looking at the body through a different set of lenses, lenses with a creationist perspective. Can you see God’s creation in the human body? The answer is yes!

God’s creation is good — studying anatomy with a Biblical perspective means starting in the book of Genesis.
God created man with a purpose we are His special creation!
We are the “body” of Christ!

In our book, Creation Anatomy: A Study Guide of the Body there is a chapter on the price of the human body.
However when you add up all the parts of the human body down to its chemical composition — God created us with an eternal soul and that means we are priceless!
Our body doesn’t only operate on an elemental level — it also functions on the molecular level and the most complex of all of our molecules in hemoglobin.
Any attempt to make man has failed. There is not a biochemical company that could put it all together and not enough money in the world to buy all the elements you need for our body.

That is an amazing testament to the awesome power of God.

Our body works in the most complex way.
We have different fluids
75-trillion cells
Our cells require oxygen, burns fuel, gets hot, needs to cool, performs work and gives off exhaust — “gas”

  1. Studying Creation Anatomy we delve into the miracle of the body:
  2. Oxygen reaches the destination which diffuses into the cell
  3. The same moment the blood carries exhaust gasses from the cell
  4. The exhaust gases are tissue cells in CO2
  5. C02 plus water equals carbonic acid
  6. And it must be neutralized instantly
  7. Naturalized red cells take it to the bloodstream
  8. Bloodstream combines with salt and plasma which equals sodium bicarbonate
  9. Harmless and carried to lungs
  10. Lungs are not equipped to exhale waste
  11. in the lungs — bicarbonate ions join with protons from hydrogen to form carbonic acid that breaks down to form carbon dioxide gas and water
  12. It passes through the capillary wall to the lungs to be exhausted
  13. Same instant red cells pick up another fresh load of oxygen and begin the journey again.

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Creation and Evolution Beliefs

Creation and evolution beliefs | Creation and evolution beliefs is a topic that deals with looking at the evidence and perhaps with a different conclusion. In this podcast, Felice shares her research with a creation scientist #homeschooling #homeschool #homeschoolpodcast #creationandevolution #creationscienceCreation and Evolution Beliefs

Creation and evolution beliefs are just that – a topic that deals with looking at the evidence and perhaps with a different conclusion. In this podcast, Felice shares her research with a creation scientist as well as her curriculum that has received inclusion in Cathy Duffy’s 100 and 101 Top Homeschool Curriculum. Jill Whitlock and Felice Gerwitz co-authored a series of curriculum for the homeschool and Christian school market. You can find our books at MediaAngelsMembership.com as well as on Amazon.

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Creation and evolution beliefs can follow you anywhere!

Felice attended a health conference for doctor’s and one talk was entitled the Embryo Defensive Human Life. And as you know, with a topic of a creation and evolution, that’s one of the big things that come up with a definition of what human life is. The talk was hosted by professor Robert George, he is a Princeton University professor. What was amazing was the fact that the discussion these days has gone to the definition of life, as a Christian, I believe that life is at the moment of conception and the human embryo is totally human. It is a humankind. It has a potential to grow into an adult. Professor George had to be transported to and from the airport by a deputy sheriff of Lee County. And it was, I’m sure for his safety, he had to be escorted because he has had death threats on his life. While we may consider that we live in a free society when you see things such as this, it is hard to believe. And right now I just praise God that there is this ability to speak frankly about the importance of the beginning of life, which is important to the future of our children! Be sure to teach your children that God created is wonderful, commendable, and should be done.

He’s written many books and was so articulate and so logical to me that much of it dovetails into this discussion of creation and evolution. Let me just preface this, talk with a couple of things and one of them is my lack of knowledge beginning any discussion on the topic. I met Jill Whitlock many years ago now and she was a scientist. She was an oil and weld geologists by degree. And when I met her she was telling me about the topic of creation and evolution.

Teaching Creation and evolution beliefs side-by-side is important.

I had just attended a conference at the state convention the year before. And I said I was left with a lot of questions. I bought a lot of books, but I didn’t know what to do with these books. She had made a ten-year study at the time and invited me over. She started out the discussion with the second law of thermodynamics and I hit pause on the recorder and I said, okay, we need to stop here. I didn’t even know there was a First Law of Thermodynamics and here you are talking about a second Law of Thermodynamics. And I said, well, what is the thermodynamics? After we stopped laughing she went on and explained and opened my eyes to the world of science and how important it was to teach both concepts to your children.

Many times in our in our homeschool world, children are taught biblical principles and are taught values, virtues, and character qualities. And all of these things are very important and very pivotal. And I do this as well in my own schooling of my children. But I want to challenge you to go one step further and I want to challenge you to consider teaching creation and evolution side by side.

And here’s the reason why. For many, many years, I’ve had friends in all walks of faith in the homeschool world and outside of it that serve the Lord, yet their children have strayed. Some even believe that it is anti-Christian because anybody who is open-minded could not possibly consider that God used the book of Genesis as fact, many consider it an allegory. I don’t argue the point anymore. What I do say is educate yourself and whatever you decide is between you and your maker, if you believed there is one or not. And it’s not anything. I can only present the information and then you can decide how you’re going to teach it.

And you know, I know there’s some wonderful curriculum available. Our books are geared with a very, very detailed outline that Jill came up with after many, many, many years of research.

My challenge to you with today is to give your children a foundation that will stay with them after they leave your home and go into adulthood. At some point, your kids will need to make a choice and hopefully, they can make a choice for God! However, they must understand the evolutionary perspective. You can’t put God in a box, however, I believe that the book of Genesis. should be taken literally, we take every word in the Bible literally. It’s not up to me to decide, everyone needs to make up their own mind.  As a Christian we discuss Genesis 12 and consider that literally because it discusses Abraham and the lineage of David, leading to Christ.

Points discussed on this podcast:

  1. It is important not only for me to teach my children the Biblical truth, but also to teach them that evolution does not hold the answers.
  2. Discuss with your children – when does life begin.
  3. Creation and evolution are both very important. Charles Darwin is considered the father of evolutionary thought. He basically preempted another author when he wrote the book Origins of Species and it became based on some of his observations that was published in 1859 and has become the dominant scientific theory of origins amongst influential scientists.
  4. Today scientists today no longer believe in evolution as proposed by Charles Darwin. In fact, they call it neo-Darwin and Neo Darwinian. Darwin said that the fossil record would prove all the transitions that he speculated about in his observations in the fossil record is still sadly lacking what in, in not sad for us to set for evolutionists.
  5. When studying about creation versus evolution, there have been three things that have really shaken the evolutionary foundation.
    1. And one is the scientists claim that DNA can be traced back to one set of parents. One scientist refer to this as the Mitochondrial Eve. This is bad press for an evolutionist, because of the reference to the Bible, but totally in line with what creation! Teach that all mankind comes from one set of parents. And if you believe in the biblical principles, we call them Adam and Eve.
    2. The second amazing thing with scientists believing they can test the effects of the beginning of time. Again, a big shock to them because they believed that the big bang or rose from an eternal universe, and now if they can see a beginning, then the question becomes who started it?
    3. The third shock in the scientific community is when red blood cells were found and dinosaur bones. Now, this is impossible since it is believed that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. The blood cells should have dissipated, are fossilized — but here they were not. In fact, and we use this as a topic in our second novel in the truth seekers mystery series, dinosaur quest.
  6. Everything you read about evolution teaches it as a given fact. Beware of this. They use words such as millions of years ago or we know that millions of years ago that… And so these are the things that really bother me when I read them teaching creation and evolution side by side. It says it all because your student, your child has been a constantly been be bombarded with evolutionary information from secular sources. Second, we need to teach evolution so that our children will understand the problems with the theory and learn how to counter what they see and hear in the media through science by definition is observable, repeatable, and testable.
  7. We cannot go back and observe or redo creation, nor can we observe or a test evolution than they are both. Belief systems both require faith to believe.
  8. There are so many scientists who are so eager to believe the lies of evolution when there’s so much evidence contrary to evolution, but it is censored. And the opinions of scientists are presented as facts.
  9. We either say things are a theory, proven or a hypothesis. Science teaches the theory of evolution is a valid hypothesis based on, “all of this evidence” that is still missing.
  10. Do you kids understand or could they debate a college professor who claims that Carbon14 dating is valid? My daughter did this in college and I share the details in this podcast. It is important for your children (and you) to understand the difference.
  11. Teach your children to think through things logically. Children who are being taught to think logically, are able to combat those who are illogical.
  12. Artifacts for example, of a fossilized beetle, are supposed to be 60 million years old, yet it is unchanged from a modern living beetle. We can point out and show our children. (My daughter and I used this topic in our third novel (http://www.TruthSeekersMysterySeries.com – Keys To The Past: Unlocked)
  13. The majority of people today, including many Christians, think the theory of evolution was founded by Darwin and is supported by scientific effort. And it actually began before the ancient Greeks. And again, there is no scientific basis that really, really definitively says, you know, here’s the information, you know, we’re done with it, there’s no more discussions, you know, the theory of evolution caused from the new changes over time and allows one species to change into a totally different species over millions of years.
  14. Macroevolution does not exist and there is no evidence. People try to say that microevolution has also evolved. Now micro is a change within a kind and that is not at all what we consider evolution. I have no problem with microevolution.
  15. When people talk about Noah’s Ark and look at feasibility studies that had been done about it, it is astounding that each kind of animal was on the Ark. You know, even some of the dinosaur kinds. And most dinosaurs were actually very small about the size of a chicken.
  16. Dr. Henry Morris was a tenured scientist who left to found the Institute for Creation Research. And he was for a sore point in the side of “real scientists” because he was a real scientist. He was a tenured scientist at a secular university.
  17. James Watson and Francis Crick were scientists who recognized that nothing could have evolved by random chance or mutations over time. And this spawned the Intelligent Design debate.
  18.  Intelligent Design says that our world is so complex it must have an Intelligent designer –proponents of this are across the board in their belief systems from Christian groups, Christian, Catholics, Jewish atheists were all part of this group and still are today. Many videos are available by Michael Behe on YouTube.
  19. Evolution is still considered a theory. There is no law of evolution. Biogenesis states that life can only come from life. And therefore, evolution violates the Law of Biogenesis and if you try to ask a scientist that you will get every other answer, but a direct response. And to me it’s so amazing and these are the kinds of things that happen when people turn their backs to Christian principles.
  20. Many students lose their states and reject the biblical teaching of their families and churches and essentially lose their fate due to evolution.

 

Teaching Creation Geology

teaching creation geology | Teaching creation geology to your children is often accompanied by excited cries because rocks are so much fun! #Homeschool #homeschooling #podcast #CreationGeology Teaching Creation Geology to Your Kids!

Teaching creation geology to your children is often accompanied by excited cries because rocks are so much fun! In this episode of Vintage Homeschool Moms, Felice Gerwitz interviews Patrick Nurre from Northwest Treasures, Geology. The Nurre’s have been longtime friends of Media Angels, Inc. and customers for many years.

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    1.  How did you come to be a creationist?
  • Patrick grew up in Montana and it was a fossil and rock gold mind.
  • Loved studying rocks and researching geology, paleontology, rocks, and minerals
  • Convinced that evolution was the answer and Bible was a collection of myths
  • Senior year Patrick became a believer in Jesus — but not sure about “Creation.”
  • Began really reading the Scriptures. One main part of the consequences of the “Flood” story became interesting.
  • The Flood is the turning point of geological earth history — were all laid down by The Flood
  • Geology was a doorway, rocks formation, and identification etc.
  • As a family that was homeschooling was teaching was the “Catechism” of Creation. Kids did not know how to apply that information.
  • Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, etc. They didn’t know how to fit it into Biblical Creation
  • While they believed the “Bible story” they believed the evolutionary perspective.
  • Patrick believed they needed both parts — confidence and experience to interpret landforms as Biblical Creationists
  • Built Geology Kits with the specimens  — over 100 kits available here What does having a creation worldview have to do with geology? Why is it important?2.
    2. What are some of the things that you do to help support this message?
  • Two views of earth history — 4.5 Billion years ago an developed through long ages — evolutionary processes OR the earth was created a short time ago by an Intelligent Being, out of nothing, and the earth was Flooded due to sin.
  • Is it scientific, was it observed, was it recorded, philosophy, consensus — it is passed off as “science fact” but it is not — evolution is a “guess” or a hypothesis
  • The Bible is a historical recorded story. There are things that can be checked against other sources. In contrast with the modern view of earth history – uses a framework of what is seen today and projected into the past. Much about modern geology is not science at all — it is guesses or predictions.
    3. So how would you suggest we teach creation geology to our kids?
  • Two big of a subject to tackle in one grade or another. Cover it in smaller chunks more often.
  • Patrick has authored books on teaching creation geology
  • Children need to learn a Christian worldview and the Scriptures
  • Field experience — hands-on
  • This is not an academic subject. Schools treat “earth science” as another academic subject. It is a world-view in Patrick’s opinion.
  • Genesis 7:11 — one of the most significant Scripture that deals with geology.
  • Geology for Kids – 4-8 a lab book accompanies it — kids need to study the samples.
  • Confidence that the children can develop through the years.
    4. What are some of the things that you do to help support this message?
  • Patrick teaches various field trips in various location.
  • Patrick speaks at various homeschool conferences and works with parents to build a worldview
  • Textbooks that teach in a clear as possible – visit NorthwestRockandFossil.com 
    5. Yellowstone National Park is important to you as you teach families. Share more information about this.
  • Yellowstone is our Nation’s first National Park
  • It serves as the model and icon of evolutionary geology.
  • It is a lab to study the Biblical historical framework of earth history
  • It changes people’s lives and perspectives on the Bible and geology.
  • Dinosaur Dig: Eastern Montana — to look for dinosaur bones!

Last thoughts;

  1. Spend time in Genesis, especially the first 11 chapters of the Bible. Master those Scriptures.
  2. Hands-on learning is best! Spend time in the field.

 

Biblical Creation Terminology

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In order to have an intelligent discussion, you must understand the terms. Biblical Creation terminology is the focus of this podcast.

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Biblical Creation vs. Evolution:

A quick definition of Biblical Creation begins with the Creator God. A Creator God began the world with His Word. Genesis 1:1: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.”

Evolution – by definition is a change over time, it is a two-step process.
1. The theory that life began spontaneously on its own
2. Darwin’s theory of simple life evolving into more complex

The terminology is confusing.
Terminology is everything. “He who defines the term wins.”

What is in a word?
Creation:
1. Creation science
2. Biblical Creation
3. Old Earth Creationist

Evolution:
1. Macro Evolution
2. Convergent Evolution
3. Darwinism
4. Neo-Darwinism
5. Old Earth
6. Theistic Evolution

God created the world with His Word. Genesis 1:1

Do you believe that God created? It is a matter of faith, evidence points to a Creator.

Intelligent Design:

An “Intelligent” Designer began the world
Science points to order not disorder
Evolution does not make sense in regard to life beginning by accident
The Designer could be:
1. God (for Christians)
2. Aliens
3. Unknown

Adaptation:

Scientists are conflicted and confused when discussing this aspect of evolution. The idea that traits are inherited by use and disuse are unscientific. The theory is that an organism adapts or alters according to certain genetic limits or due to circumstances.

Creationists do believe that adaptation does happen within certain generic limits. Adaptation happens within a kind. For example, there are different kinds of dogs, cats, finch, etc.

However, dogs remain dogs. New creatures or new features are never observed through adaptation.

Speciation:
1.Evolution of populations with species
2. Evolutionary biologists involved in the debate over what the term means
3. Based on the word “species”
4. Signifies a small step along evolution from one basic kind to another (false)
5. Variation should be used instead
6. Changes that occur with certain characteristics

Evolutionary scientists:

1. Have faith in evolution
2. Will not back down even with the lack of evidence
3. Bottom line: atheists, agnostics or Bible believers who see evolution evidence through evolutionary filters
4. Those who believe God created the world as stated in Genesis
a. take Genesis and the entire Bible in faith
b. Believe science confirms the Bible


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Creation Matters

creation mattersDoes Creation Matter? Why does the discussion on how God created the world matter? Did God really create the world in six days and rest on the seventh? Does anyone really care? These questions and many more including teaching tips and great resources are presented in the Creation Science Podcast, my name is Felice Gerwitz and it is my pleasure and honor to be your host.

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This podcast was an original work of the Creation Science Expo that I had the pleasure of hosting some years back, it is my pleasure to re-release it to you and share the importance of caring about our origins.

Many times I’ve discussed the purpose of having a creationist perspective, and people would say, “Why do you care?” The reason I care is that I want my children to grow up with a Christian worldview and share that with their children, someday. In the writing of my Truth Seekers Mystery Series book, I had a “God-incident” that I share in this episode.

In a nutshell, I was rushed during the Christmas season and wanted nothing to do with the rereading of the draft copy of one of the novels. You see, as a novelist, and co-novelist at the (along with my then, college-aged daughter, Christina), I was the one in charge of final proofreading and I kept finding mistakes. I was frustrated. I threw up a heavenward prayer, “God are you sure you have the right person doing this job?” And, I wasn’t talking about the job of editing, I was talking about the job of being the “hands and feet” of God – spreading the word about the fallacies of evolutionary claims. Which these novels demonstrate in a fun-easy to read and mystery adventure. More about the TruthSeekersMysterySeries.com here.

Heading to a store to do last minute shopping, I happened upon a calling card placed in a nativity scene I was about to purchase. (The audio includes details about this, but here is the visual — a copy of the card:

Listen to the podcast for the rest of the story!

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How and What to Teach with Science

 

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